Nello

Not sure if you've seen this? It was on one of the links on the second post:
 
 
Re: Climate Control IssuesRight, thought I'd re-visit this thread with an update.

My problems were purely on the passenger side, drivers side I can't help. (UK car, so right hand drive)

But basically after Fiat quoted me a huge sum of money to fix the problem and independent garages didn't want to take the job after short inspection. I decided to live with it...until this summer, been hot as hell recently huh.

So last night I decided to see if I could do anything and I was surprised how easy it was:

All three of the motors on the passenger side are accessible with only a small amount of dashboard removal.

The parts that need removing are the glove-box and glove box housing.

Once these are out you have very easy access to the two direction motors, and you can actually see the temperature mixing motor. Two of the screws can be taken out without any problem. The third is buried behind a metal pillar, but can be accessed (prepare for scrapped knuckles).

I then took a working arm from the direction motor and plugged it into the temperature one put it back on, turned the cogs so the air is going onto the windscreen until I can find some replacement arms/motors.

I've now got a working temperature on both sides of the car and it currently going to the windscreen while I order (try to find) new motors/plastic arms to replace the broken ones.

I thought I'd update this thread since people seem to think that it's a huge job and the entire dashboard needs to come out, well it doesn't. I'm not a mechanic or an electrician or even all that handy with DIY stuff and managed it.

When I do find the motors/arms and need to dismantle again I'll post some pictures to help people out.

I don't visit the forum too often, but I know there is very little info out there for the Bravo

I'm not (new to Italian cars) so ask away, rather than to chance making a balls up :-D

Without wishing to sound like an arse - yesssssss :-D

Well 2 bits of good news today, MoT passed with no advisories and Fiat have said they've sent the EU conformity certificate today free of charge.  The website says they're £120 but I'll not argue the toss!
 
I've got all the DVLA stuff I need to fill in & send.  The HMRC cars team in Belfast should have had the C&E109 today so I imagine the next step will be the tax bill.
 
I've done more in 4 days than the numpty sellers did in 3 months!
 
I work offshore for 3 weeks at a time & I'm due away tomorrow, so I guess nothing will happen for a bit.  Also there's something about this site the wi-fi on the platform doesn't like, so unfortunately I can't access it which is a real PITA.

Wow that IS  cheap!
 
Yep I really liked them. Not sure on wear rate, but don't think they were too bad, and grip in wet and dry was impressive, plus not too noisy either. 

Well they don't indicate, so why would they care about blinding you! 

Obviously the Germans don't give a crap about road safety, the fokkers 

Hi Dapper and welcome to an exclusive club. (Yes I did have to google septuagenarian!) I have the 1.4 MultiAir which is an excellent engine once sorted. As per other threads the early MA engines suffered with Actuator issues - the later cars were modded (post 2014 I believe). This was not just on issue on the Delta but on Bravo/Mito/Giulietta etc). I had to replace mine along with the Turbo but it did not put me off the car. The MA unit is quite spritely given the cars weight and length. (1395kg). 140bhp is not too bad and acceleration on the motorway is quite well up to a point. The car is also very stable at speed. I can get 40+ mpg on a long run too. It still turns heads and I get many a questions about the car.
I'd agree with Tim - get at least an SR spec. There are grilles available in Italy - let us know when you find a car and we can assist with sourcing one with links etc - you just need to know where to look!   

Thank you for your reply.
 
Because of time contraints, I couldn't wait for orders off the Internet. I managed to get a fiat bravo strut with damper and spring on it for £30 from traynors. Everything was the exact same as the chrysler delta.
 
I heard back from a garage today, who was waiting on a main dealer to reply. They would only sell the springs in a pair. £500.
I'm guessing that main dealer is chrysler Charles Hurst, here in N. Ireland.
 
£500 that is a scandalous.
 
I'm so thankful for the support and experience on this forum.

OK so not the most elaborate solution but for a second hand £4 Thema badge and some old No More Nails..............it got rid of the 'C' word...........
 

2 flat bladed screwdrivers can work as well!!
If you use a screwdriver to lever back the pads in the caliper, before removal, you may not need to press back the piston, as it may be fully retracted.
1 small point, watch the brake fluid reservoir for level as you will be refilling that as you press back the piston

1. Loosen the wheel bolts a half turn
2. Jack up the car and stick in an axle stand
3. Remove the wheel bolts and remove the wheel, be aware that the wheel may be stuck to the hub (loosening the wheel bolts before you jack up should allow the wheel to break the corrosion seal)
4. Using a flat screwdriver, pry the pads back in the caliper, to clean any dust and dirt from the pad slides
5. Using a 12 (possibly a 13mm) spanner loosen the caliper retaining bolts and swing the caliper out of the way
6. Lever out the pads, doing 1 side at a time, taking notice of the position of the anti rattle clips (new ones are usually supplied with pads, if not, the old ones are perfectly fit to reuse)
7. Using a brake winder press in the caliper piston (do this slowly, as the brake fluid presses back into the brake fluid pot, via the master cylinder and if done too quickly, it has been reported that the seals could turn)
8. Reassemble the caliper, using the new bolts supplied
9. Before you refit the wheel, coat the mating surfaces in a light coat of copper grease
10. Coat the threads of the wheel bolts with WD40, tighten up hand tight and torque/tighten them when the wheel on the ground
11. Repeat for the other side

Possibly not the right place to mention but is it sad that I'm off to Italy in a couple of weeks and am quite excited by the fact that I have booked an Ypsilon for the week!    (Sorry Mikey I'm not as posh as you having had a Stelvio! - they were about three times the price to book!)

Haha this year I might have a Ypsilon or a Fiat 500 myself to be fair  … As that Stelvio last year lived most of it's two weeks hire sat outside the vineyard! So an expensive ornament it was!!! Bloody lovely though! 

Looks great Tim! That sits nicely even without the bumper cut out.

Yes my box of relays appeared to be loose in the wheelarch when I first removed my lights. 
And yes Tim those 'cushions' came off mine too - I re-fixed as well although as you say the bigger the gap probably the more crud! Its even worse when your car is white!
My rear fog and reserve appear intact though.......................
 
Captain Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure sounds like something you ask discreetly for from the chemist!

Great work Tim - If I would've known I would have got the twin-pipe box look - next time.............

The exhaust is now on; so a few pics.
 
Nello is right they are bloomin' heavy. The old one put up a bit of a fight but eventually came off quite cleanly. The new one went on with no issues, other than one of the hangers seemed to have been bent in transit, but it straightened out OK.
 
I've only driven about 10 miles since fitting and as far as the sound goes, it really isn't that different; perhaps a bit deeper note but no nasty booming, which was my big concern. I've also ordered a new rear rubber hanger, as mine is looking pretty tired.
 

 

 

Yep that's pretty much the one I had for mine. Fits perfect and zero issues..........

The back box arrived yesterday. Having unboxed it looks to be pretty good quality. Nice stainless steel exhaust tips and well finished. My only gripe is that the cut ends of the steel pipe inside the stainless tips have been left as bare metal. Nothing a quick blow over with some VHT paint won't solve.

Yes saw that yesterday when I was looking for that Limited - If only it was nearer! That normally never stops me but as I already have one......................

I'm surprised at how timeless the Delta 3 shape and design is. it's mid-2019, this design has been around fr a decade and it still looks beautiful next to the latest Italian and German family cars. Numerous times i've parked next to the 2018 Seat Ibiza and am impressed by how 'modern' the Delta looks.
 
Fiat could very easily bring it back with the exact same external design but with a more updated digital gauge cluster and infotainment system.

damn, file too large, I give up. Give me a cambelt change any day.....

No More Nails    Just a smudge - with leather being absorbant it will probably mark them for life but I'm never going to debadge it back so..................

No More Nails    Just a smudge - with leather being absorbant it will probably mark them for life but I'm never going to debadge it back so..................