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hi Scruf! going thru the same problems as you have hi lited in your OP, did you sort it and how did you get the right result? i would be grateful for any info you were willing to share,,, Jon

hi jon 

i ended up bleeding the brakes 4 times in total 

the 4th  time i went to my mates unit where i totally drained the system with airline bleeder the refilled and bled with a proper bleed kit 

yet after driving few miles still felt like air in the system 

i was then given some advice (from a very old skool mechanic)

lock the pedal down for an hour or so(bit of wood between the stearing wheel and brake pedal)

test drove after, little change !!!

then just drove it around as normal (fed up of lack of results tbh) and brakes seemed to settle back in 

all back to normal now 

so in answer to you question unfortunately i dont have any good advice to feed back on 

im sorry 

ps listen to gordy and andy 

they a geniuses very very knowledgeable and helped me more than enough times with there advice 

thumbs up fellas  

i had same problem with my 2.5crd and 2.8crd 

the 2.5 i replaced all filters (not housings)had tank removed and cleaned no luck sold car in the end 

my 2.8 had exact same issues 

changed all filters fuel filter housing(ie heater/manual fuel pump) still same issue 

sent to diesel specialist diagnosed fuel rail pressure release valve 

cost few hundred quid to diagnose and get sorted but 2 years in now and im still going strong 

my advice is send it to a specialist who knows what they are looking for 

my experiences with 2 voyagers the fuel systems seems to be very temperamental

there are post on this forum about these problems already as well as a big write up on the web somewhere that i read

ps when you get it sorted only use premium diesel cheep diesel seems to worsen your problems   

hi gordy 

thanks for the reply 

if i didnt let fluid drain through naturally (ie connected up to new caliper released hose clamp) there would have been 10x the amount of air in system 

the system was been bled with proper airline bleed kit 

there were a few(quite a lot of air bubbles)that pushed out until entire system was running through with new clean dot4 

there was no air left in that system !!

but your advice about bleeding while running seems logical 

i will give that a go and post again with update 

hi just just fitted new discs pads calipers and brackets (complete front bake system) to my 2.8 crd 

just wondered if anyone else has done the same ??

i seem to be having bit of trouble with bleeding them 

i let the fluid drain through naturally then shut nipple off (after fitted new caliper!!)

then bled as per usall (pump pedal till hard,release nipple.etc....)

until all air beleived to be gone !!

test drove brakes felt good for a mile or so then felt like air still in system

alas not. redone bleeding (twice) still felt like air in the system after test drive

been to mate unit tonight and drained entire system refreshed with new dot4 bled with presureised bleed kit !!(system had a lot of air bubbles in)

felt like full brake pedal as drove away within a mile brake again went crap again 

is there something im missing ? a secret trick only involving chryslers ?

anyone got any advice please 

hi steve i notice you are in milton keynes as am i 

i had same ish problem 

i took my voyager to the diesel specialist on mount farm (dw i think they called) clark road 

excelent service diognosed corectly sorted it out 1st time 

worth the money you spend with them 

hope this helps

thanks for advice mike 

i have had the internal sensors checked and all seem fine and dandy 

the alarm can be armed as usal but could be 2 mins or 2 hours later the siren will sound 

and will not turn off with key fob or manual door lock disconectiing battery 

i have tried every thing i can think of to no avail 

i have the exact same problem 

when alarm is armed goes off 

can lock and unlock with remote fob but does not turn siren off 

i have tried numorous resets diconecting battery does nothing apart from annoy it more lol

had auto electrician look at it (dont think he was very good) said there was no fault found  

i just lock my car with the cental door lock button on the door now 

if some one has got a cure for this would love to know it myself 

ps had same problem on my last 2.5 voyger too 

i think its just another voyager quirk !!!(as im on my second voyager with exact same issues) 

hi had same problem with my doors 

watched this easy easy repair well worth a go your self 

copy paste watch 

hi had exact same issues with my 2.5 crd and my 2.8 crd 

2.5 

changed every filter had tank chemically cleaned fuel system completely checked (ie all pipes injectors etc....)

never got to bottom of problem sold car for spares 

2.8 had exact same problem

changed all filters fuel heater/pump housen still had problem 

sent into diesel specialist after few hours diagnosing was fuel rail pressure release valve 

been running perfect since October 2015 absolutely no reports !!!!

if i remember the labour was around £300 and the part was around £50 (worth every penny to me)

my advice is save yourself  the £1000s i have personally spent to discover my problem 

pay few £££ for a diesel specialist to diagnose it properly for you 

i have 2.8crd and ive towed loads of things including a fully loaded plant trailer 

mine only kicked down when climbing up hills ish 

but then i live in Milton Keynes and we are pretty flat ground 

but towing my 1.5t camping trailer to Devon few weeks ago had absolutely no issues with it changing up and down gears and thats got some monster hills down there

must admit the fuel consumption goes through the roof when towing anything but thats life unfortunately  

thnx nev 

1 quick question 

is it possible to re gas the air con system if the compressor isnt working ??

ie can the old gas be vacuumed out leak tested and re filled !!! 

ahhhhh get ya 

cheers big nev will let you know results 

ps my multi meter is broken so cant check voltage at moment unless i do it with my tounge lol (not happening!!!)

will pick new 1 up and check tommorow 

hi nigel 

the relay is fine as checked yesterday swapped out with the fog light relay both work fine 

the garage has stated that the is 800g in the system (but say it requires 790+-10) 

i have looked it up online it said my car requires 790g-960g 

would the 800g cause the pressure switch not to kick in ??(as it is at the bottom scale of the fill)

is that physically possible to do the clutch while compressor still bolted to the engine ?? there is possibly 2" max between the pulley and the inner arch !!!

wow 

jetfiremuck 

have you seen the gap between the inner arch and the pullys ????

i would be lucky to get a business card in there !!!lol

ill check the voltage tomorrow

i doubt im gonna start sticking anything near the pulley while is spinning

ill leave that bit to someone a bit more insane than myself lol (any volunteers ??)

thanks for the advice though 

definatly not the relay swapped out with the fog lamp relay 

both relays are fine 

??????

ill give it a go and let you know the results 

thanks bignev

omg must be a chrysler thing again 

my passenger side is broken too 

hi nigel

thanks for the promp reply

just checked the clutch was not engaged without air con on and did not engage when air con turned on 

the belt was running freely 

just quick question you say my car requires 900g 

the garage in question stated in email that requires 790+/-10

they filled with 800g  

i do not trust anything they have said or done !!!! but unable to prove otherwise without more expense 

but where did you get the 900g info from ?

@@nigelhobbs

hi you seem pretty knowledgeable about the voyager air con system 

i have just had my voyager re gassed 

they garage has told me that the pump(i assume the compressor)is at fault 

they claim my system had 90g in and removed it 

1st time they filled it would only take 450g (no reason given as to why wouldn't fill !)

re done and took 790g 

but air is still not cold and informed compressor/pump fault 

could there be another reason the compressor is not working correctly ??

its on a 2.8 crd 

as i replied to last post 

i had similar issue and it was the fuel rail pressure release valve fault 

ps i also replaced all the filters including the heater/filter housen etc........ 

at Emmence expense over 2 voyagers btw  

stop asking for peoples opinions and taking guesses at the problem 

pay a specialist extra few quid to sort the problem once and for all 

honestly sounds like im being disrespectful but im not im trying to help you save the money that i previously spent with same problem

oh ps i had the same issue with my previous 2.5 voyager too that i never got to bottom of the issue yet spent a small fortune and ended up selling for spares/repair

i paid £3k for my 2006 2.8 and had the problem 3 weeks after i bought it

hence i paid a specialist to sort it out for me

(no one likes to loose £3k) 

honestly friend it will be money well spent 

hi dave i had similar problem but my car was cutting out while driving and wouldnt start etc......

i sent mine in for diagnostic to diesel specialist  

came back with fuel rail pressure release valve

had that changed not a single issue since

that was after changing every filter and housing and having the tank cleaned out !!!!

i know its not best to hear but send it to a diesel specialist !!! well worth the money  

thank neilgibson 

i found that out when i contacted a company in usa as us and euro market requirements are different

dont understand why they have clusters for pre 2004 and post 2008 but not for inbetween

and know one knows if the rear light cluster are the same !!!lol 

I'm sure I've seen some clear style rear lights on US ebay. Just search "chrysler town and country" or" dodge caravan" lots more choice and not too expensive either.

 

Don't know about the before 04 but chances are they will be different.

thanks semmysonic 

found just what i was looking for on the us ebay site 

shame no one in uk has them in stock but hey ho