Hi I usually check out forums with what car I'm currently driving but this is the 1st 1 I've joined.I've got some rather bad luck with cars from zafiras to sedonas and even a Saharan,this is my first 2003 Chrysler voyager 2.5 crd and really like it even this my mechanic has had it more than me but I would normally get rid of a car if I had some problems with from the start but I'm keeping this 1,and go as far as to say I'm a Chrysler fan.