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#1 TJB

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 10:26 PM

I just had this pop up in my AutoTrader alerts. It's actually an SR, not an S. OK, it's probably top money but it's a stunning car and ultra low miles. Too good not to share:

 

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I think if I was still searching, I'd consider breaking the bank and travelling south for it.


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#2 Dido

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 11:09 AM

Do you think ultra low miles on such an age could be potentially a concern. Was is kept aside to rust? Only used for short school runs?
Just a thought....

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 06:37 PM

Hi, hopefully this car is going to be mine!  The low mileage is due to it being a Guernsey car, so low miles but perhaps a bit more clutch abuse.  I've put a deposit on it, just waiting now for the dealer to get a UK registration & MOT for it.

 

I would say it hasn't seen many harsh winters and salty roads etc., however I suppose it has lived in a coastal environment as Guernsey is so small you can't really get away from the sea.  I couldn't find any corrosion though, there's a tiny mark on the n/s/r bumper up where it meets the wing and signs of it being stood about (leaves & cobwebs around the under bonnet scuttle area etc) but other than that the exterior is lovely, the wheels & interior are pretty much immaculate.

 

As a long time Lancia fan & owner of an original Delta this one will be getting the re-badge treatment to remove the C-word!


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Posted 06 May 2019 - 09:45 PM

Hi, hopefully this car is going to be mine!  The low mileage is due to it being a Guernsey car, so low miles but perhaps a bit more clutch abuse.  I've put a deposit on it, just waiting now for the dealer to get a UK registration & MOT for it.

 

I would say it hasn't seen many harsh winters and salty roads etc., however I suppose it has lived in a coastal environment as Guernsey is so small you can't really get away from the sea.  I couldn't find any corrosion though, there's a tiny mark on the n/s/r bumper up where it meets the wing and signs of it being stood about (leaves & cobwebs around the under bonnet scuttle area etc) but other than that the exterior is lovely, the wheels & interior are pretty much immaculate.

 

As a long time Lancia fan & owner of an original Delta this one will be getting the re-badge treatment to remove the C-word!

 

Enjoy the car, it looks an absolute belter. I'm not keen on white cars, but the Delta just seems to suit it, especially with the black roof.


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Posted 06 May 2019 - 11:47 PM

Thanks for the kind words.  A non-nav petrol SR in white with the black roof was my preference, then with Peterborough being not too far from Norwich it all lined up.  I do think it is a tad pricey & he won't budge on that but there aren't many about & the mileage is probably one of the lowest to be found I suppose.  Not that that's a priority for me but I appreciate it does affect valuations.  And I guess he has to pay to register & MOT it, which no doubt I will be covering!

 

I've looked through your thread about Lancia badging which looks great; yours plus I think nearly all of the SRs I've seen have the dark alloys but on this one they are just silver.  Perhaps because it is white, I don't know?  I also don't know which centre caps to go for, I've seen on here people saying they're specific to size but the 17" do usually seem to be darker.

 

I have headrests, airbag, rear & side badges but I held off wheel caps & grille until I knew what car I was getting (if it had been a dark colour I'd have gone for the Momo grille), as it is I think it'll be the 'waterfall' grille & the light silver caps I've not come across yet!

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 10:02 AM

Well done Mike - looks good and very similar to my car. I think the Silver wheels were an option but would need to check on my brochures. Just shout if you need any advice about the badging excercise - I wrote the original thread about changing the grille - I prefer the waterfall one as well - looks more original Lancia to me. I did the proper long way around install by removing the bumper although it can be done without...... 


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Posted 07 May 2019 - 02:11 PM

Well done Mike - looks good and very similar to my car. I think the Silver wheels were an option but would need to check on my brochures. Just shout if you need any advice about the badging excercise - I wrote the original thread about changing the grille - I prefer the waterfall one as well - looks more original Lancia to me. I did the proper long way around install by removing the bumper although it can be done without...... 

Hi there, yes read & re-read your thread no end of times!  I think the vertical grille is a good look on a white car & it is more like the original Delta.  I intend to do mine that way, keep the Chrysler bits if I can (I know it seems likely the grille will break but I can't face deliberately tearing it off from the front!) to re-fit should I want to sell the car on in the future.  Also I only managed to find cloth headrests, not the correct half leather ones, but they'll do for now I think.

 

If you can shed any light on wheel centres that'd be awesome as I've found nothing so far but 16", 18" or the darker SR caps.  I don't have the Fiat Eper(?) software thing.  Suppose I could pop the wings off the wheel centre caps & stick some of those 60mm badges on but I'd rather do it properly.  Did you do your windows like Paul G did, I'd love to know how to remove the etching?  Then last thing will be the chrome sill plates I imagine.


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#8 MikeyRules

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 05:56 PM

 I did the proper long way around install by removing the bumper although it can be done without...... 

 

Blah blah blah!  :lol:

 

Mine was changed over and I'd done about 50 miles by the time you'd finished yours!  :P  ;)


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Posted 07 May 2019 - 06:02 PM

Congrats Mike, it looks like a brand new car! 

 

I'm missing mine already... Regarding the wheel centres, just keep an eye out on Italian eBay as I'm sure you already are. Or you could always have the wheels powder coated to suit the darker centres I guess.

 

I couldn't find any leather Lancia headrests either when I was looking, and even the cloth ones were silly money so didn't bother in the end. 


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Posted 08 May 2019 - 09:18 AM

Yeah don't list to that MikeyRules - he's a bodge-it merchant  :P .......... Whichever way you do the Grille the retaining clips will break off! I was very gentle and still broke a few. Were those the cloth headrests on ebay? I was watching them but holding out for a leather seat. You just won't find them without the seats. I've got some Lancia logo's to stick on like someone else did but still not got around to fixing them. People have no idea what that wing is anyway. One of my lads works for Aston Martin and he thought it was their wing logo to start with! There are some online eper sites but you need to access them in the evenings as they are too busy in the day and you always get knocked off. I will check part numbers for you asap. I just went with the stick-on badges tbh - the black and chrome logos go well. They do last although I change them every year or so - they are only about a fiver for a set. I'm too tight to fork out £80 or so for a set from Italy though I might get around to it at some point. Incidentally did you know if you secure a part number from eper you can order anything via a UK Fiat dealer. If its on eper they can get it for you. I even sourced my replacement MA Actuator from Research in Nuneaton. I think the etching was done with a Watchmakers glass polishing kit which you can polish out the old logos. The sill plates I had a Lancia logo made up - its on one of the threads. Pity you are not nearer - anyway enjoy the car and standing out from the crowd. Any issues/questions just ask here............... 


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Posted 08 May 2019 - 09:34 AM

Deltamike I've just had a look through my Sales brochure and the SR 17" was darker as OE (Code 432) - there was a similar wheel in Silver but it was 16" only (Code 431) as per below.

Are you sure they have not just been refurbished without the colour? The only other 17" factory wheels were the 7 twin-spoke design which you could get in either silver or chrome'ed effect finish.

 

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 10:56 AM

Hi, thanks for all the info much appreciated.  I can't wait to get the car, I'm looking forward to having something different to everyone else!  Might well get a chance to say hello in person, we are regularly in Coventry & Kenilworth as her family are all from there.

 

Shame about the grille breaking so easily, if the Lancia (or Chrysler) badge ever needed to be replaced you'd end up needing a whole new grille?  Interesting about the windows, I did wonder if you could polish the markings out.  And yes the headrests were on ebay along with an airbag, the seller sold them to me off there for a bit of a deal.  Hopefully the second hand airbag will be ok!

 

I've really no idea about the wheels being refurbished, there's nothing to say they have been.  I assumed they were in good condition just because of the low mileage etc.  Presumably the wheels caps would have to have been replaced or painted if the wheel colour was changed?  There is (or was) a blue SR in Bromley & a black SR in Canvey Island for sale & I think they both had silver 17" wheels but all the others I've seen have been the dark version.  Suppose it might be easier to just take the wings off the caps & use the sticky logos, save a few quid too as you say.



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Posted 08 May 2019 - 12:00 PM

No problem mike - Kenilworth is literally 5 mins drive from me so let me know the next time you are in the area. Do you have the original Sales brochure/book? If not I have a spare copy you can have when you are around here. Cheers


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Posted 08 May 2019 - 12:31 PM

That's handy, I will let you know.  It should be fairly soon, we haven't been for a little while so must be due.  I'll check with the boss!

I don't have a brochure, I was about to buy one so that's perfect, thanks very much!



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Posted 02 August 2019 - 08:27 PM

Well here we are 3 months later and still no car.  The reasons given are many & varied though personally I don't understand what the problem is.  It seems if I continue with this car I will need to take it as it is & do the necessary myself to get it a UK registration.  Sticking point being the potential VAT due when I submit the NOVA application however.  They can claim it back, I can't.

 

However if we can agree something on that for me to take the car with its Guernsey plates I will need an EU certificate of conformity to avoid an IVA test - now lots of stuff online says it should be with the owner's manual but the seller says he doesn't have the certificate.  He does have the owner's manual as I looked at it when I viewed the car but I can't recall seeing the certificate.

 

Does anyone know if the EU CoC is in with the manual?  If it is, could I ask would anyone send me a good quality copy?



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Posted 04 August 2019 - 10:35 PM

Well here we are 3 months later and still no car.  The reasons given are many & varied though personally I don't understand what the problem is.  It seems if I continue with this car I will need to take it as it is & do the necessary myself to get it a UK registration.  Sticking point being the potential VAT due when I submit the NOVA application however.  They can claim it back, I can't.
 
However if we can agree something on that for me to take the car with its Guernsey plates I will need an EU certificate of conformity to avoid an IVA test - now lots of stuff online says it should be with the owner's manual but the seller says he doesn't have the certificate.  He does have the owner's manual as I looked at it when I viewed the car but I can't recall seeing the certificate.
 
Does anyone know if the EU CoC is in with the manual?  If it is, could I ask would anyone send me a good quality copy?


I reregistered a former UK delta in Ireland 3 years ago and I will take out the paperwork and see if there is an EU certificate of conformity number on there. Give me a day or two, to find and go through it!
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Posted 10 August 2019 - 10:01 PM

Car is finally here, at long last!  Now just to navigate through the twin minefields of HMRC & DVLA...

 

As the car was already here lurking on its non-EU registration (& not in the NOVA system), HMRC advised I needed a 'C&E109' form to fill in.  Essentially making me the importer, so import duty & VAT on top - from the form it looks like they somehow work out the car's value to determine the tax figures. MoT booked for Tuesday, fingers crossed for that.

 

I reregistered a former UK delta in Ireland 3 years ago and I will take out the paperwork and see if there is an EU certificate of conformity number on there. Give me a day or two, to find and go through it!

 

Many thanks Andrewgrale, I just kind of assumed the CoC was a generic form but it appears they are produced by VIN.  So I have sent a request to Fiat UK for it with the other info they need & see how we go.


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Posted 13 August 2019 - 10:21 AM

Great to hear you've got it Mike! 

 

Keep us updated as it would be great to hear how you get on! Good luck with it all, and hopefully it works out fairly straight forward and not too expensive either!


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Posted 13 August 2019 - 01:14 PM

Well 2 bits of good news today, MoT passed with no advisories and Fiat have said they've sent the EU conformity certificate today free of charge.  The website says they're £120 but I'll not argue the toss!

 

I've got all the DVLA stuff I need to fill in & send.  The HMRC cars team in Belfast should have had the C&E109 today so I imagine the next step will be the tax bill.

 

I've done more in 4 days than the numpty sellers did in 3 months!

 

I work offshore for 3 weeks at a time & I'm due away tomorrow, so I guess nothing will happen for a bit.  Also there's something about this site the wi-fi on the platform doesn't like, so unfortunately I can't access it which is a real PITA.


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Posted 13 August 2019 - 02:07 PM

Keep going mike and well done for now.........






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