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    Stringer87 has posted in Engine Locked Up After Clutch And Flywheel Change in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    Thanks for your responses. I am going to brave the cold and attack it this weekend even if it means a full strip down again :-S Just incase a full strip is required would anyone know the correct...
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    MikeyRules has posted in Front Coil Springs Please Help in Chrysler Delta.
    As said earlier in the thread I didn't get a part number unfortunately. Just use a reg number off a late registered (2007 - 2014) Fiat Bravo 1.6/2.0 diesel off Autotrader or eBay and use that to or...
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    QinteQ has posted in Intermittent Power Problem in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    MEGGA POST Battery & Drain / Loss From - 25 May 2017 - 09:26 PMBattery: Choice, Battery choice, like choosing a wife, provokes different opinions on what is beautiful. The issue[s] h...
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    kelvin has started Rear Brake Pads Worn At An Angle in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    Hi guys. A cautionary tale that I hope will be of use. In a nutshell we discovered that our mechanic and very likely he had followed what previously had been done, had fitted the pad retaining spri...
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    Nello has posted in Front Coil Springs Please Help in Chrysler Delta.
    Mikey (above) should be along soon and may be able to give you the part number as he has the same car - Just use a Bravo spring. Use my mate Paul Gilbert at MotorMech in central Birmingham - h...
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    gordy has posted in Engine Locked Up After Clutch And Flywheel Change in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    You turn the wheel and if its in gear, motion goes right through gearbox and out clutch end by help of the first motion shaft. The first motion shaft is splined and has clutch plate which is also s...
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    gordy has posted in Water Loss And Sudden Loss Of Hot Air! in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    Keep a watch on that there Aux Heater exhaust hose for excessive water or coolant as mine went with near engine cooking.
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    gordy has posted in Intermittent Power Problem in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    Yes need to get that battery seen to and possible peracetic drain first. Some experts on here regarding upping the alternator output and drain to Audio.
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    brit644 has started Egr Vacuum Solenoid [5149105Aa] in Newbie Forum.
    Any ideas on where to find this part other than the States or Germany [Rockauto is a no..its Mopar only] Changed the egr and related parts to find the solenoid is intermittent. Rough running and...
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    QinteQ has posted in Water Loss And Sudden Loss Of Hot Air! in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    If your GV has a (1) Webasto fitted and many Ltd editions of the 2.8 do .... and (2) you keep your fuel higher than 1/4 tank and .... (30 your heating is set to digital auto, an extra light will co...
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    mrtibbs has posted in Intermittent Power Problem in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    Thanks for your reply. I should have mentioned that it is the 2.8l diesel engine. The engine starts reasonably, not always great but after a few cranks it usually fires up. Sometimes the battery i...
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    gordy has posted in My Voyager Won't Start in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    Or is it just the Crank sensor that's went Puff...
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    gordy has posted in Intermittent Power Problem in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    I was going to say If it starts ok its not air in fuel, whether Petrol or Diesel. So does it start ok from cold. Looking too MAP for this Faltering and slow to take off. 
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    Danbhardy has posted in Water Loss And Sudden Loss Of Hot Air! in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    No, the cabin heater as I can see the water dripping down below there
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    mrtibbs has started Intermittent Power Problem in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    Hi all. I hope that someone can help me with this issue. Occasionally when starting off in the morning or after the car has been left stationary for a period, the engine falters and feels as if it...
    • gordy

      Yes need to get that battery seen to and possible peracetic drain first. Some experts on here regarding upping the alternator output and drain to Audio.

    • QinteQ

      MEGGA POST

       

      Battery & Drain / Loss

       

      From - 25 May 2017 - 09:26 PM


      Battery: Choice,
       
      Battery choice, like choosing a wife, provokes different opinions on what is beautiful. The issue[s] however are simple. You should be looking for about 800CCA over 80aH, this is a physical size that will not fit the CRD battery tray, so get a big one and modify the tray, or get a smaller one and take your UK winter chances. There is a~n~other UK issue of lifestyle, its a use it or lose it condition. If like me you do 2000 miles per annum with two 15 minutes trips once a week you will regardless of battery size / cost never keep that battery charged, the BUS [over 7 or so days] at resting will use more than the 30 minutes the alternator was able to replace.
       
      Different people have success with different batteries, I'm sure the UK users will come to your aid with their suggestions, particularly the Scottish contingent who have an even colder climate than I. For myself I originally had an underpowered Banner Uni Bull 690 over 70 and my replacement now is a much preferred Varta 585 400 080 @ 85aH / 800CCA my backup permanently on a 9 stage charger is a  Bosch S5 Type 96 at 800 over 80. Never use one of those 'put your reg in here' dBase's they are rubbish [wiped the dribble from his nose] and will offer you a petrol spec / size battery not CRD capable. If you cant face modding the battery tray go for a RED TOP spiral of 800 CCA. See here for orientation. NOTE : I have a poor 'lifestyle' use.
       
      Power seat fuse[s] : are as stated droppers, as you have had your battery removed for 4 days the 'droppers' should re-set themselves via the BCM/IPM
       
      Lifestyle : Two 15 minutes trips once a week.
       
      The  higher  the  voltage  applied,  the  faster the battery will charge, charging at too  high a voltage WILL  damage  your  battery. A simple 100Ah open lead acid  battery and a 180A charger connected to the battery discharged to 50% :
       
      - @ 50% full @ 13.2V current was 35A
      - @ 50% full @ 14,8V current was 160A [improvement of 457%]
      - @ 75% full @ 13.2V current was 1A
      - @ 75% full @ 14.8V current was 60A [improvement of 6000%]
       
      Its not linear so :
       
      - two 15 minute periods @ 13.2V is 2 x 15 minute @ 21Ah, compared to ;
      - two 15 minute periods @ 14.4V is 2 x 15 minute @ 60Ah, is an improvement  of  about  300%
       
      The temperature sensor under the battery will drop [ temperature compensator's on modern alternators will compensate] the voltage output from about 14.0V to about 13.2V. The problem I have with this is the engine compartment soon reaches temp and the battery assumes its fully charged.
       
      - 13.20 volts is about what you would expect from [split diode - does not apply to Voyagers, and] this vehicle with a temp sensor & alternator compensator
      - 14.00 volts  is about what you would expect from any typical alternator without a vehicle temp sensor & alternator compensator
      - 14.40 volts is what you would expect from a sealed lead acid to prevent [they tend to gas @ 50ºC] excessive gassing
      - 14.80 volts is what you can risk pushing it to with an open lead acid to prevent damage to other equipment connected to the battery at the same time
       
      NOTE01 : There are IOD 7 functions that are always 'live' when you think your car and battery are both asleep, they pull a combined 0.025 ampere draw.
       
      • Electrical items left on.
      • Faulty or improperly adjusted switches.
      • Faulty or shorted electronic modules and components.
      • An internally shorted generator.
      • Intermittent shorts in the wiring
      Remote key fob
      Radio
      Heater blower
      Folding mirrors
      Central locks
      Interior lights when the key is in the ignition
       
       
      IGNITION-OFF DRAW TEST - reproduced from the Actual Chrysler issue to main dealers workshop manual.
       
      Allow twenty minutes for the IOD to stabilize and observe the multi-meter reading. The low-amper- age IOD should not exceed twenty-five milliamperes (0.025 ampere). If the current draw exceeds twenty-five milliamperes, isolate each circuit using the fuse and circuit breaker remove-and-replace process in Step 4. The multi-meter reading will drop to within the acceptable limit when the source of the excessive current draw is disconnected. Repair this circuit as required; whether a wiring short, incorrect switch adjustment, or a component failure is at fault
      The term Ignition-Off Draw (IOD) identifies a normal condition where power is being drained from the battery with the ignition switch in the Off position. A normal vehicle electrical system will draw from fifteen to twenty five milliamperes (0.015 to 0.025 ampere) with the ignition switch in the Off position, and all non-ignition controlled circuits in proper working order. Up to twenty-five milliamperes are needed to enable the memory functions for the Powertrain Control Module (PCM), digital clock, electronically tuned radio, and other modules which may vary with the vehicle equipment. A vehicle that has not been operated for approximately twenty one days, may discharge the battery to an inadequate level. When a vehicle will not be used for twenty one days or more (stored), remove the IOD fuse from the Integrated Power Module (IPM). This will reduce battery discharging.
       
      BatteryMOD
       
      I like many of us was an early adopter of AGM, most of us by now will be AGM. It occurs to me that the safe μF we chose for the buttonMOD could be changed to give closer to 14.4V than the 14.1 I was getting. I went 13.9 to 14.1 it would be nice to have that extra .3V, it would make a hell of a difference on a big 80aH even over such a short charging time frame as 15 minutes.
       
      I was thinking 22K Ω @ 1/2 watt would be a goodish guesstimate for keeping it under the 14.6[ish] although I'm sure it would be safe a little higher so I upped it to 22K Ω @ 1/2 watt, now tested over two summers and winters and .... smack on 14.4-6 winter and 13.9+ summer steady across the REV range. This will better recover the winter loss more quickly. Of course in the summer the ALT output will be / and is limited by the lower battery replenishment needs. So the 14.5-6V over the winter and its now an average of 13.9- 14+V summer and no longer a "guesstimate" but a fact. Well pleased !
       

      NOTES: see here for lots of bits on parasitic / battery power loss.

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    bignev has posted in Water Loss And Sudden Loss Of Hot Air! in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    On the positive side it could well be just a hose gone..........   I presume you mean the webasto diesel heater as that's under the car, the cabin heater matrix is inside the car in the cent...
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    QinteQ has posted in My Voyager Won't Start in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
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    Danbhardy has posted in Water Loss And Sudden Loss Of Hot Air! in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    Water is coming out the bottom from what I reckon is where the heater is
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    rcgough has started Gearbox Cables in Chrysler Ypsilon.
    Hello, l have a chrysler ypsilon 1.2 years 2013. the gearbox cable snapped whilst in 4th gear, ordered and fitted new cables, now cannot get reverse gear and to get 5th gear have to lift reverse bu...
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    Semmysonic has posted in Water Loss And Sudden Loss Of Hot Air! in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    Had the same problem,doing some research I found the 3.3 needs almost 16 liters to fill the system completely. Mine took 6 liters to get the heaters working properly again but had no problems with...
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    21 things an Uber driver needs to optimize his/her ride sharing business. This will in turn improve every passenger’s ride sharing experience. This list will ensure you provide a wonderful ride exp...
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    bignev has posted in Water Loss And Sudden Loss Of Hot Air! in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    No worries! Assuming it isn't leaking out of the bottom then put more in, don't know what the capacity is on the diesel but my 3.3 petrol is over 12 litres. Keep filling slowly until engine gets...
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    Alex has posted in My Voyager Won't Start in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    Good advice Quinteq. Bad earth veey common in fact i add whole new earth from terminal to starter. Battery needs to be at least 12.5v at start-up. Have you tried manually pumping fuel system? It'...
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    Danbhardy has posted in Water Loss And Sudden Loss Of Hot Air! in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    im new on here so dont know where i am looking for these threads, i put 6 litres of water in and ran it on idle and its emptied the expansion tank.   also no frothing around the oil filler c...
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    bignev has posted in Water Loss And Sudden Loss Of Hot Air! in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    I'd start with it needing more coolant in there. Several threads recently on topping up and venting the system.
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    bignev has posted in Engine Locked Up After Clutch And Flywheel Change in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    Hmm no it wouldn't, because if the engine was running the flywheel would be turning and separated from the gearbox and wheels by the clutch being pressed down.
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    Danbhardy has started Water Loss And Sudden Loss Of Hot Air! in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    Yesterday as I was off out I got about 6 miles away and the temp gauge shot up to red. Checked the coolant and there was nowt there. Drove a mile to my works garage and they filled it up with antif...
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      If your GV has a (1) Webasto fitted and many Ltd editions of the 2.8 do .... and (2) you keep your fuel higher than 1/4 tank and .... (30 your heating is set to digital auto, an extra light will come on the 'highbrow' to signal its switched on automatically. This Webasto under the drivers seat area of the floor will "express" excess moisture and diesel from the 'burn bowl' - looks like loosing coolant but isn't !

       

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      Keep a watch on that there Aux Heater exhaust hose for excessive water or coolant as mine went with near engine cooking.

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    QinteQ has posted in My Voyager Won't Start in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    no injector pulse or fuel pressure   Could as you / RAC / indi garage know be anything, I'd start here :   - borrow a 'known to be top notch good' battery / charge yours - on a 9 st...
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    Stringer87 has posted in Engine Locked Up After Clutch And Flywheel Change in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    Would doing this also prove that the flywheel is not to tight and binding? i.e with car in gear and the clutch down does the flywheel turn as well when the wheel is turned? Many thanks for your r...
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    gordy has posted in Engine Locked Up After Clutch And Flywheel Change in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    Hic burp right enough have you tried a front wheel then. Jack up, turn wheel, in neutral it should be free. Them turn with clutch pressed and in gear, if it turns clutch plate is free and not the p...
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    daveonwheels11 has started My Voyager Won't Start in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    Hi can anyone help me I went out this morning and drove about 200mtrs from my house and it just died on me cranks fine but won't fire. I had RAC out and they couldn't find the problem, with his mac...
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      Primer Pump

       

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      IPM

       

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      Or is it just the Crank sensor that's went Puff...

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    Will has posted in Front Coil Springs Please Help in Chrysler Delta.
    I am after two front coil spring for 2013 1.6 Chrysler Delta cheapest i can get exclusive labour £341. Also noticed on forum fiat bravo spring can fit what year of manufacturer ?Anybody able to he...
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    cooltrain99 has started Grand Voyager Seat Headrests in Classifieds.
    anyone got headrests for a 1999 3.3 grand voyager? i need 3 in grey leather preferably tho will take anything that fits, if anyone is breaking one for spares.
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    Stringer87 has posted in Engine Locked Up After Clutch And Flywheel Change in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    Slightly confused ?‍♂️ one thing I never mentioned it’s a manual gearbox.... how will jacking the back up help? As it’s a FWD Thankyou for your response
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    gordy has posted in Dim But Nice! in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    Big shoe Horn between underside of light and top of bumper will do the trick.
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    gordy has posted in Engine Locked Up After Clutch And Flywheel Change in Voyager 4th Generation (2001-2007).
    Are you sure its not in gear. Jack up a back wheel and try turning it.